Re: letter to zoli

From: Steve (
Date: Tue May 08 2001 - 19:17:07 PDT

What was that a response to?

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From: "ef" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: letter to zoli

> >hat tenyleg nem gondoltam volna hogy te odaig messz hogy meg a
> >baratsagunkat is kepes vagy felredobni egy incidensert. mert igaz, en
> >annak tartom. nem hioszem, hogy miutan annyit beszelunk egymassal te meg
> >mindig nem az oszkepet nezed hanem egy incidenst. ha pedig neked az
> >osskep azt mutatja hogy en egy rasszista es nacionalista hulye gyerek
> >vagyok, yenyleg nem tudom mivel szolgaltam re erre a velemenyre :(
> i never said you were a racist and nationalist idiot. please do not
> misunderstand me. what i said is that we all carry the seeds of such
> within... and such seeds are what gives rise to the more odious
> elements of humanity, which your culture exhibits so very
> instructively.
> here. it is somewhat easier to fight such behaviour, be that without
> or within oneself. where you live, it is far harder, for many
> reasons. economic, cultural, psychological.
> contrary to various religious idealizings, no one is a perfect human
> specimen, not i, certainly, nor you, definitely. we are human, and
> thus, fallible. in fact, our fallibility is our charm, life would be
> quite dull. there would be no creativity without it.
> the only difference between you and i, (well, at least as far as this
> particular issue is concerned, haha), is that i am quite honest with
> myself and you are not. therefore i have a bit of control *even when
> i am angry or frustrated*... and you do not. this is not to say that
> i do not get irrationally pissed off, nor that i never make a fool of
> myself. it only means that i am able to reconsider and perhaps affect
> the worst of what is inherent in my character. what it means, zoli,
> is that i am, above all, honest. no matter how painful such
> introspection may be at times. not to mention, humiliating.
> i am sorry, but if you keep denying what you feel - and indeed what
> may be a natural impulse given your environment - you are merely
> lying to yourself... and nothing will change. that is, you will not
> change; and if you do not, neither will your environment.
> therefore, it is indeed imperative, for your sake as well as mine,
> that you learn to understand yourself.
> you purport yourself to be intelligent; so think. consider first the
> motivating factors and then the implications of the scummiest of
> human impulses. which all humans share, zoli, no exceptions. and
> then write me an essay of a 1000 words.
> i am both older and smarter than you. all too often, you are
> impulsive and unwise. this is serious; and this is something you need
> to do, and learn. and learning is something one should do throughout
> ones lifetime, otherwise one merely repeats already entrenched,
> destructive patterns. there are no miracles, no matter how attractive
> the fantasy of such appear. there is, however, free will, and
> rational consideration. the best of the human condition mitigates the
> worst.
> -e

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